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Liquid Battery Fuel Will Allow Quick Recharges

Technology Today -- Cambridge Crude, the nickname of a new MIT liquid battery recharging system, might bring the electric vehicle back to dominate the auto industry.

What if a new recharging infrastructure could be developed that lets you pump a liquid electric charge into your EV as fast as a gasoline fill-up?

The MIT researchers have named their new battery design the semi-solid flow cell. In this battery, electric energy is stored as a liquid. When the energy in the liquid runs down, the battery can be restored to full charge by pumping out the old liquid and pumping in a new batch of fully charged liquid. The run down liquid is recharged at the station and reused for the next car.

A prototype will be ready for testing sometime in 2013, and existing EVs could be retrofitted with this battery.

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Submitted Feb 19, 2012 By: GoGoGoodyear

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wrunner Champion Author Virginia Posts:4,425 Points:1,132,585 Joined:Dec 2009	Message Posted: Feb 19, 2012 10:36:45 PM Ignore wrunner Report Abuse Fascinating! Soon MIT will start to develop the use of Dilithium crystals, in order to start developing warp speed drive engines.
joekayak All-Star Author Massachusetts Posts:833 Points:720,080 Joined:May 2010	Message Posted: Feb 19, 2012 9:47:44 PM Ignore joekayak Report Abuse No mention of how this technology compares with gas or EVS as far as costs and mileage range.
jorod55 Champion Author California Posts:1,460 Points:427,950 Joined:Dec 2011	Message Posted: Feb 19, 2012 9:19:11 PM Ignore jorod55 Report Abuse Water to steam and back. MIT style.
schatzila Champion Author Los Angeles Posts:4,929 Points:1,012,620 Joined:Jun 2010	Message Posted: Feb 19, 2012 7:52:20 PM Ignore schatzila Report Abuse Like this.
feldos Champion Author Florida Posts:2,640 Points:547,500 Joined:May 2011	Message Posted: Feb 19, 2012 7:00:26 PM Ignore feldos Report Abuse These people should be taking Rx Lithium
CVA19 Champion Author Salem Posts:2,393 Points:606,100 Joined:Aug 2011	Message Posted: Feb 19, 2012 6:12:36 PM Ignore CVA19 Report Abuse Nowhere in this article are the inherent dangers of lithium discussed. I'm sure the MIT researchers are aware of its volatility and take the necessary precautions within the confines of their laboratories. In the real world, it is one thing to use lithium in sealed batteries; it is an entirely different matter to be handling it (albeit, in a suspension solution) in public venues. Gasoline is kids stuff compared to the environmental and safety hazards associated with lithium usage--in any form. I'd think long and hard before getting all eco-infatuated with lithium because of a belief that oil is "evil".
Cakes77 Champion Author Harrisburg Posts:5,140 Points:1,648,745 Joined:Aug 2006	Message Posted: Feb 19, 2012 4:25:24 PM Ignore Cakes77 Report Abuse Nice article.
MidNJ Champion Author New Jersey Posts:7,536 Points:1,169,685 Joined:Sep 2009	Message Posted: Feb 19, 2012 4:23:12 PM Ignore MidNJ Report Abuse There are nay sayers, there have always been, But this kind of technology will become a reality. Hopefully sooner than later.
teafortwo Champion Author Washington Posts:22,061 Points:1,381,090 Joined:Feb 2009	Message Posted: Feb 19, 2012 2:22:19 PM Ignore teafortwo Report Abuse BIG OIL & GAS love us A great concept. Follow the science. Thanks for sharing GoGoGoodyear ;0} In the mean time * reduce * reuse * repurpose * recycle * Recycling rules! BIG OIL & GAS love us
batloverNM Champion Author Albuquerque Posts:3,938 Points:1,393,265 Joined:Oct 2007	Message Posted: Feb 19, 2012 1:41:48 PM Ignore batloverNM Report Abuse GoGoElectric!
kitty1750 Champion Author Kitchener-Waterloo Posts:2,199 Points:470,675 Joined:Jun 2011	Message Posted: Feb 19, 2012 11:51:08 AM Ignore kitty1750 Report Abuse They're still going to get you. What do you think they'll charge for the new energy liquid? What do you think they'll charge for a disposal fee for the old liquid being pumped out? They'll also charge taxpayers more to create disposal areas for the pumped out liquid as well as charging the car battery owners. This will be a big money grab for somebody, you can bet on it!!
larharris2 Veteran Author Tennessee Posts:328 Points:501,975 Joined:Oct 2011	Message Posted: Feb 19, 2012 11:34:46 AM Ignore larharris2 Report Abuse Cool idea.
Night Owl Champion Author Toronto Posts:7,535 Points:1,783,575 Joined:Jul 2004	Message Posted: Feb 19, 2012 11:24:43 AM Ignore Night Owl Report Abuse Really interesting. Let's hope this technology makes it into the real world — current electric vehicle battery technology hasn't progressed much in the last 100 years.
335d1 Champion Author Virginia Posts:2,361 Points:755,045 Joined:Feb 2011	Message Posted: Feb 19, 2012 10:56:19 AM Ignore 335d1 Report Abuse Worth exploring the research.
Nikontraveler Sophomore Author Los Angeles Posts:166 Points:505,270 Joined:Mar 2011	Message Posted: Feb 19, 2012 10:38:09 AM Ignore Nikontraveler Report Abuse Sounds suspiciously like a liquid fuel like say....gasoline. Just another energy commodity for people to create a new business with.
md11capt Champion Author Denver Posts:3,553 Points:707,405 Joined:Mar 2011	Message Posted: Feb 19, 2012 10:20:41 AM Ignore md11capt Report Abuse WHAT??!! "Research on this new battery technology has been funded by the U.S. Department of Defense, U.S. Department of Energy, and MIT." That'll upset the Tea Party.
Chem60 Champion Author Tallahassee Posts:3,796 Points:809,050 Joined:Oct 2010	Message Posted: Feb 19, 2012 10:00:14 AM Ignore Chem60 Report Abuse What an interesting concept. A galvanic cell separated by membranes in your car.
DanMtz Champion Author Oakland Posts:3,335 Points:1,239,425 Joined:Oct 2009	Message Posted: Feb 19, 2012 9:51:48 AM Ignore DanMtz Report Abuse Cool, I like it.
BIGOILEATURCRUD Champion Author North Carolina Posts:5,742 Points:1,374,500 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Feb 19, 2012 9:48:39 AM Ignore BIGOILEATURCRUD Report Abuse Seems electrifying with lots of potential; more power to them. Thanks for posting!
TXRanger09 Champion Author Dallas Posts:2,494 Points:888,210 Joined:May 2009	Message Posted: Feb 19, 2012 9:46:03 AM Ignore TXRanger09 Report Abuse Beats the hell out of swapping entire battery packs. I always felt that EV owners would need two battery packs, one to use while the other charged. The swap out would require a floor jack kind of rig.
BburgCW Champion Author Virginia Posts:2,684 Points:1,176,365 Joined:Jun 2009	Message Posted: Feb 19, 2012 9:42:43 AM Ignore BburgCW Report Abuse Interesting. Choice is good!
Eliano Champion Author Baltimore Posts:1,412 Points:388,100 Joined:Jun 2011	Message Posted: Feb 19, 2012 9:41:02 AM Ignore Eliano Report Abuse any efficiency is good
cmptrmush Champion Author Detroit Posts:3,595 Points:734,745 Joined:Feb 2011	Message Posted: Feb 19, 2012 9:03:12 AM Ignore cmptrmush Report Abuse This advancement has the potential to be a game changer for the EV.
CJ300 All-Star Author New York Posts:922 Points:264,225 Joined:Sep 2011	Message Posted: Feb 19, 2012 8:24:12 AM Ignore CJ300 Report Abuse Interesing
APlus Champion Author San Antonio Posts:3,898 Points:987,445 Joined:Apr 2007	Message Posted: Feb 19, 2012 8:20:13 AM Ignore APlus Report Abuse Still takes time and is a dangerous toxic fluids.
dgerst Champion Author South Carolina Posts:2,691 Points:552,250 Joined:Aug 2008	Message Posted: Feb 19, 2012 8:16:29 AM Ignore dgerst Report Abuse Now that sounds interesting.
cdrrod Champion Author Wisconsin Posts:4,134 Points:779,775 Joined:Feb 2006	Message Posted: Feb 19, 2012 8:06:58 AM Ignore cdrrod Report Abuse Concur - it's a waste of money!
fowlcan Champion Author Oklahoma City Posts:2,095 Points:680,590 Joined:Feb 2011	Message Posted: Feb 19, 2012 7:35:44 AM Ignore fowlcan Report Abuse This is not the answer! This is going to get very expensive in the l-o-n-g term. The item to be recharged is always going to take energy of some form or another to do the charging. Nice try, I like the effort but the results are not there for this one. I agree, KaBoom.
doeslayersr Champion Author Illinois Posts:9,087 Points:868,005 Joined:Dec 2010	Message Posted: Feb 19, 2012 7:31:21 AM Ignore doeslayersr Report Abuse Still not interested in an EV or a Hybrid EV.
db60 All-Star Author Indiana Posts:982 Points:211,255 Joined:Oct 2011	Message Posted: Feb 19, 2012 7:25:38 AM Ignore db60 Report Abuse Basically its electrolyte exchange, nice! But we need to know more about the chemistry than the article tells us. This could really work if there are no or limited negative enviromental impacts of a spill. Good post.
graceman Champion Author Baltimore Posts:4,968 Points:1,158,725 Joined:Jun 2008	Message Posted: Feb 19, 2012 7:25:14 AM Ignore graceman Report Abuse Sounds like a good idea to me!
MN1 Champion Author Twin Cities Posts:3,339 Points:646,590 Joined:Jun 2011	Message Posted: Feb 19, 2012 7:24:09 AM Ignore MN1 Report Abuse Good, keep developing the technology.
bar1035 Champion Author Charlotte Posts:9,130 Points:1,294,220 Joined:Aug 2006	Message Posted: Feb 19, 2012 7:16:33 AM Ignore bar1035 Report Abuse Fits in nicely with all the unused EV charging parking spots we read about.
1momsunshine Champion Author Ottawa Posts:5,475 Points:997,555 Joined:Mar 2010	Message Posted: Feb 19, 2012 6:59:03 AM Ignore 1momsunshine Report Abuse ok
gs7101 Champion Author San Antonio Posts:5,503 Points:386,920 Joined:Jun 2009	Message Posted: Feb 19, 2012 6:53:52 AM Ignore gs7101 Report Abuse Kaboom; no thanks!
coughlin Champion Author San Jose Posts:5,165 Points:1,113,865 Joined:Sep 2009	Message Posted: Feb 19, 2012 6:48:18 AM Ignore coughlin Report Abuse Dejavu
wildddkattt80 Champion Author Phoenix Posts:2,143 Points:432,145 Joined:Jun 2011	Message Posted: Feb 19, 2012 6:45:32 AM Ignore wildddkattt80 Report Abuse This is great news and makes the naysayers look bad already.
grandpadon28110 Champion Author Charlotte Posts:4,696 Points:1,138,310 Joined:Sep 2008	Message Posted: Feb 19, 2012 6:43:33 AM Ignore grandpadon28110 Report Abuse Keep looking there is a way.
albert2008 Champion Author Winnipeg Posts:7,332 Points:1,477,010 Joined:Sep 2008	Message Posted: Feb 19, 2012 6:39:45 AM Ignore albert2008 Report Abuse hope it works
dorisntx Champion Author Fort Worth Posts:2,079 Points:642,755 Joined:Apr 2011	Message Posted: Feb 19, 2012 6:37:29 AM Ignore dorisntx Report Abuse ok
fuel2use Champion Author Seattle Posts:3,468 Points:729,325 Joined:Dec 2010	Message Posted: Feb 19, 2012 6:35:04 AM Ignore fuel2use Report Abuse People are thinking. Lets see where it goes.
1WI All-Star Author Appleton Posts:818 Points:274,255 Joined:Jan 2012	Message Posted: Feb 19, 2012 6:28:45 AM Ignore 1WI Report Abuse Okay
humblepie Champion Author Toledo Posts:34,065 Points:2,367,370 Joined:Mar 2006	Message Posted: Feb 19, 2012 6:26:04 AM Ignore humblepie Report Abuse how thrilling, but not in my lifetime i think.
batloverNM Champion Author Albuquerque Posts:3,938 Points:1,393,265 Joined:Oct 2007	Message Posted: Feb 19, 2012 6:24:07 AM Ignore batloverNM Report Abuse Go electric with USA made electricity!
gasrat6083 Champion Author Long Island Posts:3,451 Points:1,159,105 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: Feb 19, 2012 6:22:56 AM Ignore gasrat6083 Report Abuse Coming from MIT, I would expect this to have potential. But, as always, there are many questions still be answered.
TomT2Lee Champion Author Cincinnati Posts:5,347 Points:1,594,430 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: Feb 19, 2012 6:22:51 AM Ignore TomT2Lee Report Abuse Wow Joeski1, you must be a paid promoter for EV/hybrids. To bad there are numerous problems not being addressed by either vehicles that are monumental.
Joeski1 Champion Author New Jersey Posts:9,972 Points:1,737,835 Joined:Dec 2004	Message Posted: Feb 19, 2012 6:13:42 AM Ignore Joeski1 Report Abuse bring it on!! I want an EV for my next vehicle... (or a hybrid car that gets 60MPG or better....) Chevolet VOLT current offer: Low-Mileage Lease for Qualified Lessees $349/month 36 month lease. $2,499 due at signing (after all offers). Tax, title, license, dealer fees and optional equipment extra. Mileage charge of $0.20 /mile over 36,000 miles. Read full offer details Example based on survey. Each dealer sets own price. Your payments may vary. Payments are for a 2012 CHEVROLET VOLT with an MSRP of $39,995. 36 monthly payments total $12,564. Option to purchase at lease end for an amount to be determined at lease signing. Ally Bank must approve lease. Take delivery by 02-29-2012. Mileage charge of $0.20/mile over 36,000 miles. Lessee pays for maintenance, repair and excess wear. Payments may be higher in some states. Not available with other offers. Residency restrictions apply.
ClarkSC Champion Author South Carolina Posts:3,058 Points:1,007,405 Joined:May 2010	Message Posted: Feb 19, 2012 6:04:03 AM Ignore ClarkSC Report Abuse What is the projected life and most important, the cost.
Rockyguitar Champion Author Tampa Posts:2,552 Points:1,198,995 Joined:Sep 2008	Message Posted: Feb 19, 2012 6:00:32 AM Ignore Rockyguitar Report Abuse Will wonders ever cease? Something useful from Mass. P S: great post, JamesCalvin.
JamesCalvin Champion Author Lancaster Posts:3,171 Points:515,780 Joined:Nov 2011	Message Posted: Feb 19, 2012 5:58:54 AM Ignore JamesCalvin Report Abuse Just don't spill any on ya'! OH I forgot! We will have OSHA, EPA, Homeland Security, Dept of Education, FEMA all to protect us with expensive procedures to make the dream of electric vehicles cost prohibitive! All to protect the children! Forgot the CPS in the list above! [Edited by: JamesCalvin at 2/19/2012 7:59:20 AM EST]